Her background - Afro-Caribbean? [Dialup friendly version]

Aeshia

6th Apr 2004, 23:00

Originally posted by Bink+Apr 6 2004, 07:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bink @ Apr 6 2004, 07:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Aeshia@Apr 5 2004, 09:53 PM
I always thought she was half black or something..(cuz of her hair lol) um but Liam does not look half black to me..soo either he's Stace's half bro or she's not at all mixed..so confusing :blink:
I'm guessing he is her half brother, different dads. Because she said that when her parents got married they bought her a ring as well, so she was born way before they got married. And her and Liam don't look all that much a like. [/b][/quote]
yeah that make sense...are there any pics of Stacey's mum?

xXHanyXx

9th Apr 2004, 23:35

i always wondered that but i dont reall yknow :unsure:

dream_8

10th Apr 2004, 00:21

yeah i've always wonderd too, but it dosnt really matter to me, i was just wondering how she would fill out those forms, like which boz would she check.. :unsure:

mizzbling

10th Apr 2004, 03:30

ive always thought she was just a normal white british girl, with red curly hair....white people have curly hair too, dont they?

dream_8

10th Apr 2004, 03:34

yeah, but usually not that curly,but my 4th grade teacher had the exact same hair as stacey, like same length, same color, same curlieness (is that a word lol), and yeah, maybe Stacey is just tan coz if you read the SC8 comic in the January issue if it's hot (i think it was jan, it could have been feb.) anyways, the same issue that has the "Who;s Your S Club 8 Blind Date" thing, she looks really white with red hair, i almost didnt reckognize her

Lauren

10th Apr 2004, 16:41

Originally posted by dream_8@Apr 10 2004, 12:21 AM
yeah i've always wonderd too, but it dosnt really matter to me, i was just wondering how she would fill out those forms, like which boz would she check.. :unsure:
Well I'm black and in the U.S. it used to be if you had one drop of black blood in you then you were black. Now you can check I multiracial box but if you asked me I would say Stacey's black (I always thought that you can tell right off from her hair, and when she got it straightened too you can still tell) and if Stacey's smart she'll check the black box cuz she can get better scholarships and affirmitive action saying she's black, saying she's multiracial is an unclear category and she was to check off white would just be not right. :unsure: Even if she is Carribean and not African-English (haha don't know how to say it) she'd still check black I'd think so. :) Looking at Rochelle I'd think she had some white blood in her too, possibly grandfather, usually you get curly hair like that from mixed blood otherwise it is just kinky! :P Anyway, still in that hair book the clubbers have done they say her hair is Afro-Carribean.

lil*LADY

10th Apr 2004, 21:49

Stacey's parents could both be biracial... or her mother could be white and her father could be black. or some other complicated way.

and about her brother not looking like her, brothers and sisters don't always look that much alike! it all has to do with the genes or traits that get passed down from one generation to the other. sometimes these traits skip and land on a target... sometimes, you'll see a sister that's a brunette that has blue eyes and a brotha that's blonde with hazel eyes...so you can never tell or know.

i would go on about the genes and how they work, but you guys don't need all of this info, do you? :)

Greenjp

11th Apr 2004, 04:58

I like to spend my time thinking of Stacey not DNA ;)

bluebutter

11th Apr 2004, 07:17

LOL!
but i think stacey's got a little bit of black in her. so maybe her dad is biracial and her mom isn't? making stacey as light skinned as she is but still with hair like hers.

LaurenGoldspink

11th Apr 2004, 14:32

aw now uve all gone and confused me now lol... i never put any thought into what racial background she has...

Timmy

12th Apr 2004, 00:55

i think shes mixed , alot of ppl say she is anyways

Mistisa

1st May 2004, 11:32

i reckon stacey'z half black half white!! but she could be anything else!!

razpberry05

1st May 2004, 20:46

Originally posted by mizzbling@Apr 9 2004, 10:30 PM
ive always thought she was just a normal white british girl, with red curly hair....white people have curly hair too, dont they?
yes they do. i saw i the story what her mom looked like and her hair is just as curly as stacey's! lol.

Lauren

2nd May 2004, 02:19

Originally posted by razpberry05+May 1 2004, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (razpberry05 @ May 1 2004, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mizzbling@Apr 9 2004, 10:30 PM
ive always thought she was just a normal white british girl, with red curly hair....white people have curly hair too, dont they?
yes they do. i saw i the story what her mom looked like and her hair is just as curly as stacey's! lol. [/b][/quote]
White ppl have curly hair but it's usually much shinier...geez lol I really don't see how anyone could think she was white! No offense to you lol, it's just like, weird for me I guess, if I was Stacey I wouldn't appreciate everyone thinking I was white cuz it's kinda offensive (not to be white but for someone to mix up your ethnicity), actually. BTW, Stacey's brother or whoever y'all are talking about could look totally white and still be black, I mean there are even twins that are born one white one black and you could look at the white one and not be able to tell that they are black! But they still have to check the black box.

lil*LADY

2nd May 2004, 04:06

oh just be quiet. ppl are making it sound much more complicated.

it doesn't even matter much "what" she is.

it's better to keep it a mystery until she tells us herself. :rolleyes:

Craig

4th May 2004, 12:18

I agree with Lil Lady on this one. You lot really need to just drop the subject. The girl is beautiful and has a great voice! It doesn't matter what racial background she is, ok? I mean, damn, how would you feel if you had people saying you were this and that?!

sc8fan

11th May 2004, 21:20

I totally agree with u guys,it doesn't matter what race she is! Kinda a useless topic to start if you ask me...

ispano

12th May 2004, 20:27

This has actually been a worthwhile and intelligent thread until the last Three posts. There has been no negativity whatsoever within, until. We were just discussing what her background could possibly be. Many of you might not realize this, but the ethnicity of a celebrity is of importance (at least moreso in the US), it gives Fans something to relate with their celebrities ( J. Lo with Hispanics/Puerto Ricans, Sean Paul with Jamaicans, Wyclef with Haitians).

Of course, not liking a celebrity because of their background is something I disagree with, but no one has said anything along those lines. To turn a good discussion into an accusation towards those that are curious of her background is completely juvenile and uncalled for.

To say that â€œit doesnâ€™t matterâ€ what she is, shows a sort of disrespect for others cultures..

music_man2002uk

13th May 2004, 18:03

I have a friend who has the same similar background as a stacie but you wouldn't know if she was bi-racial or not, the only reason that you can tell are their features.

lil*LADY

13th May 2004, 20:26

Originally posted by ispano+May 12 2004, 12:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ispano @ May 12 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

To say that â€œit doesnâ€™t matterâ€ what she is, shows a sort of disrespect for others cultures..[/b]
excuse me but i am NOT trying to disrespect other cultures! :shifty: psst, i would never ever do such a thing! you misinterpreted what i was trying to say.

Originally posted by "ispano"@
To turn a good discussion into an accusation towards those that are curious of her background is completely juvenile and uncalled for.

juvenile? ha! the little kids (no offense) who are trying to guess on what she is would be considered juvenile if you ask me... this topic was so repetitive..."oh she must be mixed" or "i thought she was white".......kept going and going... i thought we already got to the point of what she was...

what i really meant was that many people have already suggested that she was mixed, so let it be...but then things started to get really confusing because people, or little children, have put all their mumbo jumbo on the theory of what she is... so then it all becomes kind of nonsense...not intelligence.

and yes, i do agree with you on the fans relating to their celebreties because of their backgrounds BUT the celebrities that you mentioned (j.lo, wyclef, and sean paul) are really representing where they are from, like saying it loud and proud almost everywhere they go or do, to their fans. Besides, they are older and more famous as well...it's not like stacey would make sc8 more famous if fans knew what her nationality was, now wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

<!--QuoteBegin-"ispano"
Of course, not liking a celebrity because of their background is something I disagree with, but no one has said anything along those lines. [/quote]
then why bring this topic up in the first place???

and i don't get how my last post was so negative...aww, you must be sensitive. it's alright.

Lauren

13th May 2004, 22:51

Originally posted by ispano@May 12 2004, 08:27 PM
This has actually been a worthwhile and intelligent thread until the last Three posts. There has been no negativity whatsoever within, until. We were just discussing what her background could possibly be. Many of you might not realize this, but the ethnicity of a celebrity is of importance (at least moreso in the US), it gives Fans something to relate with their celebrities ( J. Lo with Hispanics/Puerto Ricans, Sean Paul with Jamaicans, Wyclef with Haitians).

Of course, not liking a celebrity because of their background is something I disagree with, but no one has said anything along those lines. To turn a good discussion into an accusation towards those that are curious of her background is completely juvenile and uncalled for.

To say that â€œit doesnâ€™t matterâ€ what she is, shows a sort of disrespect for others cultures..
I agree completely!

Besides, they are older and more famous as well...it's not like stacey would make sc8 more famous if fans knew what her nationality was, now wouldn't it?

Well, in the USA, Stacey's chance of getting invites to the BET or NAACP awards lowers significantly if she wasn't black....and if people see photos of her and the other members there, that is publicity. I mean to have the colored members of SC8 talk about race would mean alot to me, because I think it's good to talk about your backround and be proud of who you are. It's good to talk about issues your fans can relate too. Like Mariah Carey talks about being mixed and how life was hard for her growing up because people made fun of her parents. So anyone reading articles about what the members of SC8 have to say about ethinicity could cause them to respect the band alot more, which is good, even if they don't buy the CD. Sometimes I read articles about people I don't take seriously and what they have to say really surprises me.

Although really, I don't know why this topic is still going on, if the hair books says her hair is Afro-Carribean I don't know how she would get it without being black lol! :blink: It's actually kind of weird, I'm not against mixed marriages or anything but sooo many more ppl in the UK have mixed marriages, I watched the Story and Rochelle's mom is white too. And I also noticed before that so many black people in the UK have that really curly hair, and it usually comes from being mixed (otherwise you most likely have afro hair lol).

teeny66

14th May 2004, 17:31

i agree with everything u said ^^^^^^^^
especially with the whole thing about there being more mixed marriages in the UK. Not saying anyting against them but there I have also seen more while watching things like the story etc. than here in north america!

lil*LADY

14th May 2004, 23:09

Originally posted by Lauren@May 13 2004, 02:51 PM

Well, in the USA, Stacey's chance of getting invites to the BET or NAACP awards lowers significantly if she wasn't black....and if people see photos of her and the other members there, that is publicity. I mean to have the colored members of SC8 talk about race would mean alot to me, because I think it's good to talk about your backround and be proud of who you are.
we have yet to see s club 8 on BET darling........ besides, they are not really an r'n'b group and most of the members are white...

AND I AM NOT RACIST. i'm just giving out my point. :rolleyes:

Bink

14th May 2004, 23:36

Can't people just want to know. Not for any other reson then just knowing.

ispano

16th May 2004, 18:56

juvenile? ha! the little kids (no offense) who are trying to guess on what she is would be considered juvenile if you ask me... this topic was so repetitive..."oh she must be mixed" or "i thought she was white".......kept going and going... i thought we already got to the point of what she was...

what i really meant was that many people have already suggested that she was mixed, so let it be...but then things started to get really confusing because people, or little children, have put all their mumbo jumbo on the theory of what she is... so then it all becomes kind of nonsense...not intelligence.

If that is what you really meant to say, then you should have said so. I don't even find the slightest hint of that in your post.

Exhibit A-

oh just be quiet. ppl are making it sound much more complicated.

it doesn't even matter much "what" she is.

it's better to keep it a mystery until she tells us herself.

and while we're at it..

and yes, i do agree with you on the fans relating to their celebreties because of their backgrounds BUT the celebrities that you mentioned (j.lo, wyclef, and sean paul) are really representing where they are from, like saying it loud and proud almost everywhere they go or do, to their fans. Besides, they are older and more famous as well...it's not like stacey would make sc8 more famous if fans knew what her nationality was, now wouldn't it?

Actually having Stacey represent whatever her background is would incredibly help the groups success. If she is a minority that is (we still do not actually know since she hasnâ€™t said anything). She is beautiful, a great singer and would therefore be a great role model for minority teens.

Stacey is (arguably you could say) one of the dominant singers in S Club Eight. The outcome of people identifying Stacey as a minority would promote the band more and actually would make S Club Eight â€œmore famousâ€. S Club Eight is a dominantly Caucasian group and to have a minority in their ensemble, as one of the strongest lead singers is something that people in the states would be proud of (just like in the UK I'm sure). Jay and Rochelle would also have the same impact.

QUOTE ("ispano")

Of course, not liking a celebrity because of their background is something I disagree with, but no one has said anything along those lines.

then why bring this topic up in the first place???

and i don't get how my last post was so negative...aww, you must be sensitive. it's alright.

This topic was brought up because I (and evidently a few others) were wondering what Staceyâ€™s background could be. I thought I had made that perfectly clear..

If you do not understand at all how I found your post to be negative, maybe you should compare your post to the previous ones. Everyone was just giving their honest input until you told everybody to shut-up. That is rude, especially coming from someone who doesnt have any Administrative rights here. Every post thereafter has been delivered with the same attitude..

Lauren, I appreciate your post. Those are very good points.

we have yet to see s club 8 on BET darling........ besides, they are not really an r'n'b group and most of the members are white...

AND I AM NOT RACIST. i'm just giving out my point.Â*

We have yet to see S Club 8 ANYWHERE in the US. Granted, S Club 8 isnâ€™t an râ€™nâ€™b band, but BET does not strictly display râ€™nâ€™b and hip-hop artists. In the past few years they have displayed N Sync which is a dominantly white, POP band, just like our dearly beloved. They definitely have a chance of making it into BET, the only factor would be their age. Besides, I have always noticed a few african american influences in the S-Club/S-Club 8 music.

No one has accused you of racism..

ispano

16th May 2004, 19:06

Excuse me, this thread was initially based on a discussion of Stacey's culture, it seems as if it has turned into more of a race/culture discussion on S Club 8 as a whole. Although I didn't expect this discussion to end up this way. I am happy it did, I think as a whole this is a very worthwhile thread.

I mean to have the colored members of SC8 talk about race would mean alot to me, because I think it's good to talk about your backround and be proud of who you are. It's good to talk about issues your fans can relate too. Like Mariah Carey talks about being mixed and how life was hard for her growing up because people made fun of her parents. So anyone reading articles about what the members of SC8 have to say about ethinicity could cause them to respect the band alot more, which is good, even if they don't buy the CD. Sometimes I read articles about people I don't take seriously and what they have to say really surprises me.

It would also mean a lot to me if the members of S Club 8 were more willing to talk about their race. As an Afro-Caribbean immigrant into the states culture is also important to me, which is why I have been so protective over this subject. My sisters and myself are big Stacey Fans because of her beauty and talent. If it turned out that she was 100% white it wouldn't matter to me.

honeybunny

16th May 2004, 19:09

I don't see why people are arguing over it. Does it matter what racial background she has, she's still the Stacey we all know and love, whatever her background is

razpberry05

17th May 2004, 01:14

whoa!? straying off topic i think...

boule

20th May 2004, 22:22

Originally posted by Lauren@May 2 2004, 02:19 AM
White ppl have curly hair but it's usually much shinier...geez lol I really don't see how anyone could think she was white! No offense to you lol, it's just like, weird for me I guess, if I was Stacey I wouldn't appreciate everyone thinking I was white cuz it's kinda offensive (not to be white but for someone to mix up your ethnicity), actually. BTW, Stacey's brother or whoever y'all are talking about could look totally white and still be black, I mean there are even twins that are born one white one black and you could look at the white one and not be able to tell that they are black! But they still have to check the black box.
I dont understand why people think she's black. Are you colour-blind? She's white! Oh she may have a great great grand father who was black but she's white. Didn't you know that white people could have a tanned skin and curly hair like her?
I'd like to know what she is btw. We should ask her next time she's on a tv show!

Lauren

21st May 2004, 01:40

^I have absolutely no clue what you meant by that....you said she was white and then you said you would like to know what she is...huh?

http://www.sclubbers.com/images/totps165.jpg

boule

21st May 2004, 21:03

Ah sorry. I meant I think she's white (I'm blind if she isn't!) but I'd like to know what her origins are.

Ryan

14th Jun 2004, 05:19

I think Stace has a White mum and a mixed Dad... making her 1/4 Black... but I dunno for sure.

-Ryan

shockbody

17th Jun 2004, 21:15

While you look closely, you can see that she hasn't exactly got Caucasian features, and well, I dunno, if she were a bit darker, she would definitely be considered mixed. When I first saw her I was convinced she was white, just because she hasn't got dark skin. But she actually is quite tanned. So yeah, I think she's 1/4 black too. But apparently her mum has the same hair, so it's all very confusing.

Lauren

17th Jun 2004, 22:27

Some other people who are black but people confuse them alot are

Justin Guarini
Nicole Richey (she used to look black as a kid but I don't know what happened to her now ew)

:)...well actually no smiley cuz I can't stand either lol! But jus lettin y'all know.

shockbody

18th Jun 2004, 20:16

Isn't Justin Guarini mixed??

Lauren

18th Jun 2004, 22:17

I usually call mixed people black....it's how you're treated usually (except in this case actually though, where it's hard to tell) and it's what you're more likely to check in surveys cuz it's clearer and you get affirmative action. But if someone was picky or sensitive, I'd call them mixed if they cared about it. Usually people who want to be called mixed want to be called it for the wrong reasons in my experience. :( But not to be confusing, I'll say mixed from now on. :)

shockbody

19th Jun 2004, 15:14

I really don't get why people just get confused and refuse to call people mixed simply because they are considered "non-white".
Like, white person + white person= white person
Black person + black person= black person
Black person + white person = non white person
BUT that doesn't mean that mixed people still aren't partly white and that part of their heritage shouldn't be denied.
I'm really sick of people feeling the need to call mixed race people black, because it is easier according to society's standards.
If you are black and white, you are black and white. You can't deny who you are or pretend that you are something you're not. so to hell with social classifications who try to tell that you have to choose between the two, cause the choice between your races is not one that you have to make.
Mixed people are a minority seperate from other minorities cause they have to deal with issues that other minorities don't have to deal with.
Obviously, as non-white people they might feel like they relate more to other non-whites (blacks, asians, whatever) when it comes to issues like racism and whatever.
Ok now my little rant is out of the way..I had a dream that I met Stacey and asked where she was from, and she said Hawaii.. Wtf??

Bink

19th Jun 2004, 18:10

Originally posted by shockbody@Jun 19 2004, 03:14 PM
I had a dream that I met Stacey and asked where she was from, and she said Hawaii.. Wtf??
LOL! :lol:

Lauren

19th Jun 2004, 18:34

Originally posted by shockbody@Jun 19 2004, 03:14 PM
I really don't get why people just get confused and refuse to call people mixed simply because they are considered "non-white".
Like, white person + white person= white person
Black person + black person= black person
Black person + white person = non white person
BUT that doesn't mean that mixed people still aren't partly white and that part of their heritage shouldn't be denied.
I'm really sick of people feeling the need to call mixed race people black, because it is easier according to society's standards.
If you are black and white, you are black and white. You can't deny who you are or pretend that you are something you're not. so to hell with social classifications who try to tell that you have to choose between the two, cause the choice between your races is not one that you have to make.
Mixed people are a minority seperate from other minorities cause they have to deal with issues that other minorities don't have to deal with.
Obviously, as non-white people they might feel like they relate more to other non-whites (blacks, asians, whatever) when it comes to issues like racism and whatever.
Ok now my little rant is out of the way..I had a dream that I met Stacey and asked where she was from, and she said Hawaii.. Wtf??
I never thought of it that way (or all those things I knew but never put them together)...I guess it is kinda denying part heritage. Those are good points!

I think we oughta write Stacey a letter and ask her! While I'm at it I'll write Daisy a letter. I've seen a scanned letter someone got back from Aaron before...what's the address?

shockbody

19th Jun 2004, 22:18

Yeah, that'a great idea! I'm getting way too obsessed, I really have to find out.. I mean, it's kinda worrying if you start having dreams about it :rolleyes:

sc8fan

20th Jun 2004, 16:36

Originally posted by shockbody@Jun 19 2004, 11:14 AM
I had a dream that I met Stacey and asked where she was from, and she said Hawaii.. Wtf??
LOL! That's funny! :lol: But dreams usually mean something,don't they?

shockbody

20th Jun 2004, 20:05

Originally posted by sc8fan+Jun 20 2004, 04:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sc8fan @ Jun 20 2004, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-shockbody@Jun 19 2004, 11:14 AM
I had a dream that I met Stacey and asked where she was from, and she said Hawaii.. Wtf??
LOL! That's funny! :lol: But dreams usually mean something,don't they? [/b][/quote]
Hmm..maybe they do, yes, but I find it hard to believe that she's Hawaiian LOL

shockbody

20th Jun 2004, 20:07

Oh btw, if we were to write a letter to Stacey, could we ask about Frankie's background too? Hehe

Lauren

21st Jun 2004, 19:15

She'd be a good one :) You know Roch is mixed too? I thought s cuz of her hair but I thought it'd be her grandpa cuz she is dark, but in the story her mom was white! They oughta put this stuff in their Fact Files, it's just interesting to get to know your clubbers better! :gossip:

boule

21st Jun 2004, 19:45

Originally posted by Lauren@Jun 21 2004, 07:15 PM
She'd be a good one :) You know Roch is mixed too? I thought s cuz of her hair but I thought it'd be her grandpa cuz she is dark, but in the story her mom was white! They oughta put this stuff in their Fact Files, it's just interesting to get to know your clubbers better! :gossip:
Or she may be adopted......

Lauren

22nd Jun 2004, 02:46

The possibilites are endless!

micos

23rd Jun 2004, 09:15

Here's a stacey pic of her with straight hair

http://www.sclubbers.co.uk/images/mom008.jpg

guvnorgaz

23rd Jun 2004, 10:18

i dont think she is mixed race at all.she isnt that dark skinned,frankie is more tanned than stacey,and i think its just the fact she has her hair like that that makes everyone think she mixed race

boule

23rd Jun 2004, 12:05

Lauren

23rd Jun 2004, 12:11

Originally posted by guvnorgaz@Jun 23 2004, 10:18 AM
i dont think she is mixed race at all.she isnt that dark skinned,frankie is more tanned than stacey,and i think its just the fact she has her hair like that that makes everyone think she mixed race
Exactly it is the hair. Look at Stacey's hair straightened. It is not very shiny or silky-it doesn't look like Frankie's or any of the white girls. I'm black and when I straighten my hair (well my hair is permanently straightened) it looks the exact same way as Stacey's. And as for Stacey's curly hair, it's looks like the type of hair mixed children has. Plus sometimes Stacey wears her hair in an afro. I doubt if she was white she'd do that, it's a more popular style for blacks, look at Kelis. And Stacey cornrows her hair sometimes too-I know Daisy does but still-the cornrows back with a tie and half hair down is a popular black style. She doesn't have to be dark to be mixed, one of my friends is mixed and is as light or lighter then other white people, but he has the African hair so that's how you know.

shockbody

24th Jun 2004, 21:27

Originally posted by boule+Jun 23 2004, 12:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boule @ Jun 23 2004, 12:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-guvnorgaz@Jun 23 2004, 10:18 AM
i dont think she is mixed race at all.she isnt that dark skinned,frankie is more tanned than stacey,and i think its just the fact she has her hair like that that makes everyone think she mixed race
Yeah my mate's white and very tanned but she's not mixed at all! [/b][/quote]
So? Wow. Go to the beach and get tanned. That's all there is to it. You people base everything on skin colour. Look at her features. Her hair..is that "white" hair? Do you see anyone in England walking around with an afro (practically) and perfectly "white" features? No. Look at Stacey's nose for example. Come on. And then compare *all* of her features compared to Frankie's. And personally, I think Frankie isn't 100% British. She must be Spanish, Arabic, or Indian too. Or something else exotic.

boule

24th Jun 2004, 21:48

Originally posted by shockbody+Jun 24 2004, 09:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shockbody @ Jun 24 2004, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by boule@Jun 23 2004, 12:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-guvnorgaz@Jun 23 2004, 10:18 AM
i dont think she is mixed race at all.she isnt that dark skinned,frankie is more tanned than stacey,and i think its just the fact she has her hair like that that makes everyone think she mixed race
Yeah my mate's white and very tanned but she's not mixed at all!
So? Wow. Go to the beach and get tanned. That's all there is to it. You people base everything on skin colour. Look at her features. Her hair..is that "white" hair? Do you see anyone in England walking around with an afro (practically) and perfectly "white" features? No. Look at Stacey's nose for example. Come on. And then compare *all* of her features compared to Frankie's. And personally, I think Frankie isn't 100% British. She must be Spanish, Arabic, or Indian too. Or something else exotic. [/b][/quote]
Oh you're driving me nuts! :rolleyes:
(btw my mate hasnt been on the beach for a very long time and she cant really tan where she lives. It's always cloudy!)

shockbody

25th Jun 2004, 13:22

Originally posted by boule+Jun 24 2004, 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boule @ Jun 24 2004, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by shockbody@Jun 24 2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by boule@Jun 23 2004, 12:05 PM
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i dont think she is mixed race at all.she isnt that dark skinned,frankie is more tanned than stacey,and i think its just the fact she has her hair like that that makes everyone think she mixed race
Yeah my mate's white and very tanned but she's not mixed at all!
So? Wow. Go to the beach and get tanned. That's all there is to it. You people base everything on skin colour. Look at her features. Her hair..is that "white" hair? Do you see anyone in England walking around with an afro (practically) and perfectly "white" features? No. Look at Stacey's nose for example. Come on. And then compare *all* of her features compared to Frankie's. And personally, I think Frankie isn't 100% British. She must be Spanish, Arabic, or Indian too. Or something else exotic.
Oh you're driving me nuts! :rolleyes:
(btw my mate hasnt been on the beach for a very long time and she cant really tan where she lives. It's always cloudy!) [/b][/quote]
Why, because I don't agree with you?
So, I don't know anything about your friend, so I can't honestly say anything about her, but frankly she doesn't really have anything to do with S Club 8.

boule

25th Jun 2004, 16:18

Originally posted by shockbody@Jun 25 2004, 01:22 PM
Why, because I don't agree with you?
So, I don't know anything about your friend, so I can't honestly say anything about her, but frankly she doesn't really have anything to do with S Club 8.
No, cos you cant understand that somebody can be naturally tanned and not obviously black!

shockbody

25th Jun 2004, 17:49

Originally posted by boule+Jun 25 2004, 04:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boule @ Jun 25 2004, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-shockbody@Jun 25 2004, 01:22 PM
Why, because I don't agree with you?
So, I don't know anything about your friend, so I can't honestly say anything about her, but frankly she doesn't really have anything to do with S Club 8.
No, cos you cant understand that somebody can be naturally tanned and not obviously black! [/b][/quote]
Are you talking about Frankie or Stacey? What I'm saying is that Stacey isn't as tanned as Frankie, but yes, she still is, but that has nothing to do with the fact that I think she's partly black. But as I said before, compare their features. It's a known fact that black people have much wider noses than white people, and that their hair is much less sleek and manageable.

No1sclub8Fan

9th Jul 2004, 06:11

I think Stacey is English... she seems to have the accent and stuff... I don't think she is from the Carribeans... she would probably be living there... [COLOR=purple]

Lauren

11th Jul 2004, 06:25

Originally posted by No1sclub8Fan@Jul 9 2004, 06:11 AM
I think Stacey is English... she seems to have the accent and stuff... I don't think she is from the Carribeans... she would probably be living there... [COLOR=purple]
We're talking about race! We know she is English. :D

No1sclub8Fan

12th Jul 2004, 16:30

I know we are talking about race but all i'm saying is Stacey is not afro-carribean! Have you watched S Club Search - Bringing the House Down... her mum had really curly hair and was pale-skinned (white)... so obviously it means that her dad is dark-skinned (black).... so yeah... all i'm saying is she is just not afro-carribean (she is english!!) : D! : P!

felsong

14th Jul 2004, 12:04

Mixed..definitely..but she turned out real well, didn't she? Very exotic! Wish I looked like that...

felicia

lil*LADY

15th Jul 2004, 22:26

my god... :rolleyes:

stacey is obviously mixed; the hair and her features all show it.

she has an english accent because she was raised in England! but maybe her ancestors were afro caribbean...

and sheesh, please don't turn this into another argument. i think it's pointless now really.

and to shockbody, i agree with you all the way. :]

Bink

17th Jul 2004, 00:43

:hail:

ddd99

17th Jul 2004, 09:50

To be fair, she's English, her ancestry are mix.

Lauren

18th Jul 2004, 01:19

If you think people confuse Stacey, I once talked to someone who thought Rochelle was white and just really tanned... :huh: :lol:

ddd99

18th Jul 2004, 04:43

Rochelle is confusing, there's a photo with her, & her little sis, & they have completely different look.

Mistisa

18th Jul 2004, 07:23

how do u know that stacey is afro caribbean?

Lauren

18th Jul 2004, 15:48

Originally posted by Mistisa@Jul 18 2004, 07:23 AM
how do u know that stacey is afro caribbean?
A hair book for SC8 called her hair Afro-Carribean. But even before I saw that hair book I knew she was mixed. It's the hair! Even when straightened, you can tell.

No1sclub8Fan

19th Jul 2004, 12:24

I think Rochelle's adopted... in the S Club Juniors the Story when it shows all their parents her Mum was completely white! So they can't be her biological parents...

Lauren

19th Jul 2004, 14:38

Originally posted by No1sclub8Fan@Jul 19 2004, 12:24 PM
I think Rochelle's adopted... in the S Club Juniors the Story when it shows all their parents her Mum was completely white! So they can't be her biological parents...
Ya I saw that too her mom was white! But her dad could be completly black. And I think Rochelle may have some mixed blood because of her hair, cuz 100% black people just have thick hair (think afro hair) that's usually not as neat and curly as hers.

sclub8_4ever

20th Jul 2004, 15:33

I agree with Lauren, 100% black people usually have thick hair and Rochelle's hair is really nice and it has small curls... not like 100% black people

hokey

20th Jul 2004, 22:01

Originally posted by Lauren+Apr 10 2004, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lauren @ Apr 10 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-dream_8@Apr 10 2004, 12:21 AM
yeah i've always wonderd too, but it dosnt really matter to me, i was just wondering how she would fill out those forms, like which boz would she check.. :unsure:
Well I'm black and in the U.S. it used to be if you had one drop of black blood in you then you were black. Now you can check I multiracial box but if you asked me I would say Stacey's black (I always thought that you can tell right off from her hair, and when she got it straightened too you can still tell) and if Stacey's smart she'll check the black box cuz she can get better scholarships and affirmitive action saying she's black, saying she's multiracial is an unclear category and she was to check off white would just be not right. :unsure: Even if she is Carribean and not African-English (haha don't know how to say it) she'd still check black I'd think so. :) Looking at Rochelle I'd think she had some white blood in her too, possibly grandfather, usually you get curly hair like that from mixed blood otherwise it is just kinky! :P Anyway, still in that hair book the clubbers have done they say her hair is Afro-Carribean. [/b][/quote]
Yep that was a very old and very racist US law. You can have whatever opinion you want to have. I'm "mixed" with one parent black and one white. Nothing makes me laugh more than this assumption that if you have a black relative you are instantly black. I remember a lengthy debate with a very confused co-worker once who insisted I was black because my Father was black. Since my Mother was white I insisted that by her logic she could call me white too. She was way too dumb to get it. If you're mixed and people insist (and they often do!) what race to say then it's your choice. If Halle Berry thinks she's black despite a white Mother then it's her choice. I don't think she is but hey it''s her right. I just don't like others putting their instant label on me. At times it seems more black people than white or doing it. So my answer to the question depends on my mood. One day I say I'm white the other black. Just to annoy the one so interested in it.....! :D

sclub8_4ever

20th Jul 2004, 22:02

But who knows, Rochelle's mom is white maybe her dad is white too but maybe her grandma was black and her grandpa was white? It is possible...

sclub8_4ever

20th Jul 2004, 22:04

I have 1 white parent and 1 black my mom is white but her parents are black and she isn't adopted.... I always ask her and she doesn't know why.... People call me white cause' I look white I don't look like my dad really...

sclub8_4ever

20th Jul 2004, 22:09

Originally posted by hokey+Jul 20 2004, 10:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hokey @ Jul 20 2004, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Lauren@Apr 10 2004, 04:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-dream_8@Apr 10 2004, 12:21 AM
yeah i've always wonderd too, but it dosnt really matter to me, i was just wondering how she would fill out those forms, like which boz would she check.. :unsure:
Well I'm black and in the U.S. it used to be if you had one drop of black blood in you then you were black. Now you can check I multiracial box but if you asked me I would say Stacey's black (I always thought that you can tell right off from her hair, and when she got it straightened too you can still tell) and if Stacey's smart she'll check the black box cuz she can get better scholarships and affirmitive action saying she's black, saying she's multiracial is an unclear category and she was to check off white would just be not right. :unsure: Even if she is Carribean and not African-English (haha don't know how to say it) she'd still check black I'd think so. :) Looking at Rochelle I'd think she had some white blood in her too, possibly grandfather, usually you get curly hair like that from mixed blood otherwise it is just kinky! :P Anyway, still in that hair book the clubbers have done they say her hair is Afro-Carribean.

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I totally agree with what you said... makes sense to me