End of the Road DVD...

[Skittles]

Just wondering - a lot of people complain that the End of The Road DVD is dubbed but I've just bought a promo copy of the DVD and this doesn't appear to be dubbed... are only parts of the show dubbed or have I got a special copy here?

It also says on the back "We apologise for the audio drop-out in the show" - is this on all copies?

[5,6,7,STEPS]

Yeah. I've got the video, and it says the same. It's in 'Love's Got A Hold On My Heart', but it's only for a few seconds. We all know the song anyway! :D

[Skittles]

Originally posted by 5,6,7,STEPS@Jan 7 2004, 05:19 PM
Yeah. I've got the video, and it says the same. It's in 'Love's Got A Hold On My Heart', but it's only for a few seconds. We all know the song anyway! :D
Love's Got A Hold On My Heart is fine on my copy... it's in One For Sorrow on mine... :blink:

[Skittles]

Aww it's really emotional - Claire, H and Lisa look like they're about to cry all the way through it (and Claire does at the very start and the end!)

[magicpatch]

Yeah god knows what happened with the audio dropout, someone must have dropped something when the DVD was being finalised LOL

Although the PPV show had audio issues they where not where the DVD has problems LOL

[Skittles]

You think they'd have dubbed over the audio dropouts - an easy enough thing to do and it would be less noticable than a total sound drop out.

...but this DVD definately is live as far as I can tell - all that's been mimed so far is Deeper Shade Of Blue at the start and possibly Believe by H.

[magicpatch]

I'd have to fish out the original PPV broadcast to compare, to be fair I've not really sat down and watch the DVD version, although the look I did have the video quality is top notch!

[Skittles]

ooh... Bittersweet is definately dubbed in parts... comparing it with the DVD and the clip that i put on the website after the relaunch.

having said that, the sound quality on the dvd is much better... so i'm not sure now...

[Skittles]

I've spotted an editing mistake :)) right at the end, Lisa grabs Claire's hand and then the camera moves in to a closer shot and she does it again... hehe.

God and Lisa taking H and Claire on a guilt trip at the end! "and I just want to thank the crew, but most of all I want to thank YOU GUYS" *points at h and claire*

[iluvuClarabelle]

lol Chris - theres lots more than 2 mimed songs on there!

they only sing live in *counts* 7 songs :)
but the live numbers r brill so that makes up for it...

also Lisa wasnt angry with them at this point - so she WAS actually being genuine lol!

[Skittles]

lol... so when did she turn all evil then... and why?

are you sure they only sang 7 live? i'm pretty sure that all of the following songs were live... (by the way, do you have the ppv video or the end of the road dvd?)

Love's Got a Hold On My Heart
After The Love Has Gone
Heartbeat
Here and Now
If You Believe
It's The Way You Make Me Feel
Hand on your heart
Words are not enough
I know him so well
Bittersweet [partly dubbed on DVD]
You'll Be Sorry [nearly totally dubbed but you can hear the live h and claire in the background]
Last Thing On My Mind
Better The Devil You Know
Summer of Love [dubbed in parts]
Better Best Forgotten
Tragedy
Chain Reaction

I'm not saying that they definately sang all of these live, but they sounded different to the CD version... whether they simply mimed to a special "live" recording is another matter...

[Matt5BB]

Think about what Claire is saying as the sound goes out...
"There's no escape..." Maybe an inside joke for Jive.

[_-*Jamie*-_]

lol.

[5,6,7,STEPS]

Originally posted by chrisbailey+Jan 7 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chrisbailey @ Jan 7 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-5@6,7,STEPS,Jan 7 2004, 05:19 PM
Yeah. I've got the video, and it says the same. It's in 'Love's Got A Hold On My Heart', but it's only for a few seconds. We all know the song anyway! :D
Love's Got A Hold On My Heart is fine on my copy... it's in One For Sorrow on mine... :blink: [/b][/quote]
I dunno. Knowing me, i probably got it wrong! :D

[Skittles]

No, lol, it's me! My DVD player must've messed up because I've just watched it back and it's alright on One For Sorrow now.

[SeanieB]

the whole show was mimed wasnt it - over pre-re-recorded vocals.... except from DSOB and one for sorrow - which were studio recordings..

oh and the slow ones...

i like the bit in bittersweet when Lisa sings "finally Im free" when on the WANE CD the line goes "finally you're free"

lol

lol i also noticed that LSL points to H&Claire when she says thanks...

tho - she sings shes free - yet makes it clear a few days later that she wasnt happy with the split and all that crap... hmmm *ponders motives*

[iluvuClarabelle]

6 or 7 songs were sung live on the Gold Tour - i cant b assed listing thme but its the slow ones - the only exception is that the last 30 secs of Fayes solo is mimed but the rest of her song is live - i have the PPV version btw - im glad i dont have the tampered with one!

oh btw - yeh most of the fast songs like ATLHG and HAN were re-recorded basically to sound live and to be a bit different

[PhllyBeef]

Little of that tour was LIVE live, as many have said. You can watch them bugger up their miming in parts. Espcially perma-buggering H and Claire. That's also why everything was in the same spot (like, the little solo parts in the chorus) - So that when they mimed it, it was still the same for them. Some songs with the headworn mics, were, for once, sung live. But you can tell when they are live, because Claire sang flat A LOT (although I do not say, for one second, I have perfect pitch).

A question - Were the dubbed parts TERRIBLY obvious, like a really bad edit, or fairly smooth?

[LSL Lover]

A lot of it was miming over re-recorded tracks that weren't perfected to sound live. They did sing about seven songs live though I think.

And I just listened to the Bittersweet B-Side Single Version and if I'm in the place you're talking about (SeanieB) it's "I can see that finally I'm" not "youre"

[Skittles]

It says "Now and then we all can lose our way, tomorrow's going to bring a better day, and I can see that finally you're free..." on the CD.

Ahh right... thanks for clearing that up about the prerecorded vocals... I was confused because they sounded live and yet they were dancing around energetically!

I'm glad they made the effort though to make it sound live.

[SeanieB]

Originally posted by LSL Lover@Jan 8 2004, 02:40 AM
A lot of it was miming over re-recorded tracks that weren't perfected to sound live. They did sing about seven songs live though I think.

And I just listened to the Bittersweet B-Side Single Version and if I'm in the place you're talking about (SeanieB) it's "I can see that finally I'm" not "youre"
Listen to this... :rolleyes: (http://www.claire-richards.com/bittersweet_pointproved.rm)

She says you're free

on TEOTR she said I'm

[iluvuClarabelle]

Im sorry to do this to you Seanie (im bein serious) - but she says I'M free there - listen again! i can see why u think she said you're, its just the way she sings it - but i can 100% guarentee you she says I'M - if u ever meet her - ask her :)

oh and just to correct Phlly beef (again sorry!) but on the Gold Tour none of the songs they performed with head mics were sung live - they were re-recorded live but not sung live on the nite :)
(just for pointless info here - the only song theyve ever sung live with head mics on is Ghostbusters on the Next Step Tour!)

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by chrisbailey+Jan 7 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chrisbailey @ Jan 7 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-5@6,7,STEPS,Jan 7 2004, 05:19 PM
Yeah. I've got the video, and it says the same. It's in 'Love's Got A Hold On My Heart', but it's only for a few seconds. We all know the song anyway! :D
Love's Got A Hold On My Heart is fine on my copy... it's in One For Sorrow on mine... :blink: [/b][/quote]
u know what i haven't even got a copy when the tour was released i heard it was released the week after it came out (when it entereed the chjarts after the 1st week) and i didn't know b4 that so i hadn't saved up for it at all - so i spent a week saving up for the dvd and bought it the week after (as i had the money - well i did save up £13 the week i heard it was released but i thought dvd's costed bought £15/£16 and i hadn't got that much neway till the next week) and when i went to buy the dvd (i hate vhs cos my vhs player hates me and won't let me play vhs without breaking/damaging the vhs itself) the shops didn't have a copy and they said that it wasn't efven released aty all

but u know about tours from artists if they release it on vhs/dvd their record company edit it and dubb them - S Club 7's record company did that S Club's Carnival tour on the DVD and S Club Party was actually dubbed cos Jo S CLub she always is holding a note down for good little while when performing live and on the S CLub Carnival dvd S CLub party was dubbed cos u can see Jo holding a few notes down but no sound came when she does that at all

[Skittles]

Originally posted by iluvuClarabelle@Jan 8 2004, 02:31 PM
Im sorry to do this to you Seanie (im bein serious) - but she says I'M free there - listen again! i can see why u think she said you're, its just the say she sings it - but i can 100% guarentee you she says I'M - if u ever meet her - ask her :)
Actually, you're right. She does say "I'm free" ... lol.

Wouldn't make sense anyway would it? "I can see that finally you're free" :blink:

[iluvuClarabelle]

exactly - the songs all about her - not about any1 else!

[sing live]

mm.... according to different reviews, the WISG on the Next Step tour might be live too.... haha... another song being live if that's true....

i agree that .... all songs except the slow ones were mimed on the Gold tour..... coz they sounded too stable with those dance routines and not so stable when they sang the ballads..... and how come they could sing and dance for a whole night long without the ear piece monitors.... but when they stop the dance to sing the ballads, all of them very suddenly put on the monitors together??.... mm.... :D

[Shaggy]

Well Spotted. I was apauled by the dubbed version of Hand On Your Heart. You can tell realllybadly it was re-recorded! :angry: B)

[_-*Jamie*-_]

S Club Carnival is so dubbed, on the "Dont Stop Movin" DVD, they sang DSM, obv same performance, but when Jo sings "just listen to the sound let it make you come alive" on DSM, Brad is going like "ooh, oooh, ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!" but in Carnival hes mouthing "ooh, oooh, ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!" and no "ooh, oooh, ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!" is happening!!

Then in "You" when Jon is "singing" theyve dubbed Rachels voice over his!!

[Shaggy]

On the night, they may of had a few problems with the ear monitors. For example as Claire sings her solo Hand on.... everytime you hear that women speaking (on ppv) she tends to go really out of tune so maybe she could hear the women through the monitors. Or she might of jus B) t had a bad night. Hey, happens to the best of us. They sounded great at Birmingham.

[SeanieB]

it still sounds like Im to me... no matter how much i listen...

listen to echo..... its you're...

sorry lol

[iluvuClarabelle]

Seanie - its I'M!
tell ya wat - post this on lsl and see wat the people there think - her v devoted fans and the people that know her will tell u its Im - better still - they can ask Lisa - it I'M!
sorry! but i KNOW im right!

just to re-state the point - all the ballads on Gold (starting from IYB) are sung live except for the end of IYB.
plus Lee's solo was live - k?!
none of the fast songs were live.
About WISG on the next step tour - its possible it was sung live then dubbed.... but theyre deffo not singing live on the video!

[Skittles]

Was WISG live on live@wembley? I'm pretty sure it is, but again, they could be miming to a 'live' version.

A shame that they conned us! lol... especially on their 'live' tour, where they hardly sang live at all!

But it's pop and it's steps - we wouldn't want to see them making a mess of their vocals. :D

[iluvuClarabelle]

nono - they sung WISG live on that tour for deffo...

and wen they ever claim to do a "live" tour??
they never claimed to sing every song live on tour :)

[Shaggy]

Well at last they sounded live. B)

[Skittles]

Originally posted by iluvuClarabelle@Jan 8 2004, 11:15 PM
nono - they sung WISG live on that tour for deffo...

and wen they ever claim to do a "live" tour??
they never claimed to sing every song live on tour :)
Well then the names "The Next Step Live" and "Live@wembley" are a little bit misleading! :lol: although to be fair, they never did say it was fully live so you're right.

[Shaggy]

I don't think it would be humanlly possible to sing and dance at the same time for a whole performance. One time in the day of H and Claire, when they finished a performance of All Out Of Love, they had an interview and claire couldn't get her breath back for ages so that proves they would never do it. There only human after all. They've allways done the dance routines well though. good on em! B)

[Skittles]

An end to the argument about Bittersweet: http://www.generationsteps.co.uk/content/i...ittersweet.html (http://www.generationsteps.co.uk/content/information/lyrics/bittersweet.html)

[SeanieB]

Originally posted by Shaggy@Jan 8 2004, 10:31 PM
I don't think it would be humanlly possible to sing and dance at the same time for a whole performance. One time in the day of H and Claire, when they finished a performance of All Out Of Love, they had an interview and claire couldn't get her breath back for ages so that proves they would never do it. There only human after all. They've allways done the dance routines well though. good on em! B)
I would have loved to have seen AOOL performed live... :(


I love that song - imo its one of H&Claires best

[LSL Lover]

Point prooven by arse. I just listened to your clip and it's no diffrent than it is on my CD. She sings I'M finally I'M free. Not YOU'RE. Go to the dr and get your hearing checked out mate

[iluvuClarabelle]

yeh it would been great to hear AOOL live - Claire vocals r amazing on it - tho it woulda been quite hard to sing live (even without the dance obv) - u never know tho - theres nothin sayin she cant do it in the future if she wants to and if the fans want her to....

the 1 i really wanna hear live again is OFS - she has to do that!

[iluvuClarabelle]

Originally posted by Shaggy@Jan 8 2004, 10:22 PM
Well at last they sounded live. B)
wats that supposed to mean? - they DID sing WISG live on the Steptacular tour!
lol!

[steps2cool]

I haven't ever sat down and watched all of the End of The Road DVD, but I've seen the bit in IKHSW when Lisa misses her bit, but the thing is you have to wonder why they actually bother with all the edits. When I watched the PPV concert there wasn't a time when I thought they were really bad.

Might watch it later now...

[Skittles]

Originally posted by steps2cool@Jan 10 2004, 04:43 PM
I haven't ever sat down and watched all of the End of The Road DVD, but I've seen the bit in IKHSW when Lisa misses her bit, but the thing is you have to wonder why they actually bother with all the edits. When I watched the PPV concert there wasn't a time when I thought they were really bad.

Might watch it later now...
Wow... there's so many slip ups you don't notice first time round! I've just watched I Know Him So Well and she does forget to sing! lol... unless she wasn't supposed to?

[Shaggy]

Lisa did'nt miss her bit. Thats the strange thing. When they re dubbed it, they put Lisa singing fayes clip.
By the way, I wasn't talking about the Steptacular tour, I was talking about the End Of The Road!!!!!!

[Shaggy]

In other words, it was Faye who missed her bit!

[Skittles]

Yea, I was talking about End of the Road too... lol.

How do you know that Faye was supposed to sing it? If it's Lisa that sings it on the CD, shouldn't she have sung it on the tour?

:blink:

[Shaggy]

I'm pretty sure it's the same on the Cd. Goes and listens!

[sing live]

mm... i think it's Lisa losing her bit in the IKHSW on Gold Tour coz when they promoted the wane/ikhsw single, Lisa started singing a new line "learn about the man before I fail" and singing Faye's line in the ending "he needs his fantasy and freedom"... just like they did on the TOTP....

[Shaggy]

I just checked I Know.... on the single release and it was def Faye who missed her bit! I'm positive.

[Shaggy]

Then again, the almighty remix of I Know..... illustrats Lisa singing that bit. Must be to versions and Lisa must of got confused on the night

[Skittles]

LoL, or maybe they left it out - they were singing live and perhaps they wanted to let Claire hold her note a bit longer? I guess we'll never know. lol.

[sing live]

mm.... yes on the single faye sing "he needs his fantasy...." but when they sang live, Lisa sang it.... you can see when they mimed, faye lip sync that line but when they sang live, Lisa sang that line......

by the way, i like they switching lines with other STEPS members like this.....

[iluvuClarabelle]

it was Lisa who missed her line!

she was really quite out of it that night! she was really upset and u can clearly tell the look on her face wen she realises shes missed her bit - she goes to raise her mic up towards her mouth but she knows shes too late to sing it...

so yeh - it was just a lil mistake by Lisa

[steps2cool]

I watched it earlier and it's obvious because after she misses her line, Clare sings a line and then it goes back to Lisa again, but Lisa raises her mic to her mouth before Clare starts singing, so she obviously didn't want to miss her cue again.

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by iluvuClarabelle@Jan 8 2004, 12:22 AM
6 or 7 songs were sung live on the Gold Tour - i cant b assed listing thme but its the slow ones - the only exception is that the last 30 secs of Fayes solo is mimed but the rest of her song is live - i have the PPV version btw - im glad i dont have the tampered with one!

oh btw - yeh most of the fast songs like ATLHG and HAN were re-recorded basically to sound live and to be a bit different
wot the hek does ppv stand for?


and does ne1 have the track listings to the toru/dvd/video?

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by Viva La Fiesta@Jan 8 2004, 07:44 PM
S Club Carnival is so dubbed, on the "Dont Stop Movin" DVD, they sang DSM, obv same performance, but when Jo sings "just listen to the sound let it make you come alive" on DSM, Brad is going like "ooh, oooh, ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!" but in Carnival hes mouthing "ooh, oooh, ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!" and no "ooh, oooh, ooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!" is happening!!

Then in "You" when Jon is "singing" theyve dubbed Rachels voice over his!!

i could have sworn that S Club was miming S Club partty on the Carnival dvd otherwise everything else was ok

and that bit u'r talking about was done live on my DVD

[iluvuClarabelle]

Originally posted by crazy vampire+Jan 12 2004, 10:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy vampire @ Jan 12 2004, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-iluvuClarabelle@Jan 8 2004, 12:22 AM
6 or 7 songs were sung live on the Gold Tour - i cant b assed listing thme but its the slow ones - the only exception is that the last 30 secs of Fayes solo is mimed but the rest of her song is live - i have the PPV version btw - im glad i dont have the tampered with one!

oh btw - yeh most of the fast songs like ATLHG and HAN were re-recorded basically to sound live and to be a bit different
wot the hek does ppv stand for?

[/b][/quote]
Pay Per View - the show that was shown live on Sky Box Office!

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by sing live@Jan 10 2004, 06:50 PM
mm... i think it's Lisa losing her bit in the IKHSW on Gold Tour coz when they promoted the wane/ikhsw single, Lisa started singing a new line "learn about the man before I fail" and singing Faye's line in the ending "he needs his fantasy and freedom"... just like they did on the TOTP....
Lisa's sings the ending if u listen to the cd

[sing live]

but..... when they mimed, they mimed with the CD version and Faye mimed the line... like the one on cduk, which is the same as the one on abbamania......

[Skittles]

Ok... this is interesting. lol.

On the CD (I'm listening to the version on The Last Dance) it's Faye that sings the line "He needs his fantasy and freedom".

On the End of the Road DVD, obviously the line is missed but you can still hear it - it sounds like Lisa when it says "fantasy" but when you listen to the word "freedom" it sounds like Faye. Lisa's got a very unique singing style and I think Faye's just sang that word in the way Lisa sings, which makes the whole lot sound Lisa-ish.

I think that it was Faye who missed her line, not Lisa.

On another note - was the line dubbed in, or were they miming to a 'live' version? I can't really tell... it looks live because when Lisa sings live she screws up her face a lot. :D

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by Shaggy@Jan 10 2004, 06:56 PM
Must be to versions
yip there are 2 versions

ikhsw was re-recorded especially for the almighty mix (which is almost unheard of) which is where lisa swaps the line to "learnt about the man"

also if you listen to the mix the vocals are pblatantly differnt.

As foir the dubbed over line on the dvd, it is faye who misses her line - she's crying, and they cut away to a long shot so you don't notice it so much.

But on the ppv they are actuall on faye as she misses the line

[Skittles]

I've got the almighty mix! lol.

...but does anybody have the PPV video of I Know Him So Well I can download?

I'm just watching You'll Be Sorry on the DVD... it's strange. The sound in the chorus is weird and the vocals in the verse are really washed out - it's almost ghostly. lol.

...and are there any more mistakes that I've not noticed yet?

:D

[Skittles]

Ooh... I've noticed another mistake - in the Words are not Enough video near the end - Lisa uncovers the mirror and you see H's reflection in it, and he comes into shot at the left of the screen (you'll need it in widescreen).

Then in the next shot, it's a wide shot of the whole room, and H is miles away from Lisa, walking backwards! There's probably loads of mistakes like this in their videos. :D

(added later) actually, the whole opening sequence to the Words are not Enough video is screwed up! When Claire goes up to the mirror in the wide shot, Lisa is stood there. In the close up, Lisa is gone. In the reverse shot, Lisa is walking towards the mirror, and you can see her reflection, suggesting that Lisa is stood where to camera is. In the wide shot Lisa is there again. Then as Claire is pulled into the mirror and Faye reaches for her, Lisa is gone again. Then on Faye's close up, Lisa is in the background again walking towards the mirror! Confused? I know I am ... lol.

I'm starting to wonder now - note that they are only actually in the video right at the beginning and that Lee is never shown close up with the rest of Steps. The only time he's in it is when he turns into computerised Lee - which he may have filmed seperately from the rest of them? Perhaps Lee refused to do the video, and so they said "Right, well we'll do a computer one then"?

Also... does anybody else agree that it's the worst Steps video? lol... it's so random and senseless.

[iluvuClarabelle]

*sighs* lol! - emmm first off im positive its Lisa who misses her line in the live IKHSW (and yeh they did sing it live on the night) - its not only me that thinks it was Lisa but this was first mentioned 2 years ago and has been since and most of the fans agree its Lisa who misses her line :)

also - lol, im sure Lee didnt refuse to do the video LMAO - why would he?!
It probably is one of their worst vids (ive only watched it a few times lol) - but they certainly spent a good bit on it - it was 300,000/400,000 quid to make!

[Skittles]

we know it was faye that missed her line, because as said before, she was crying on the PPV version and the camera was on her (they were obviously expecting faye to sing it, that's why the camera was on her) and she sings it on the cd too.

as for the video... hmm it probably was expensive, but I reckon it was quite cheap in comparison to their other videos;

take Last Thing on my Mind - you need to get steps and the film crew to Cuba, seal off an area for filming (pay the local authorities), pay the extras to be in it, pay for a film crew to stay a few nights in Cuba to film it (and they'll need food and rooms too), pay for somebody to edit it together and then add any special effects (ok, so there aren't any in LTOMM as far as I can remember, but anyways).

or it's the way you make me feel - they needed to book the house for a few days, pay all the dancers and crew, get them accomodation nearby, have all the lighting and special effects, not to mention rehearsals for the video, which weren't needed in WANE.

of course, they made allowances - they had a few expensive videos, and a few cheapo ones too - i know him so well and better the devil you know. :D

lol... it's also quite weird when steps turn into their computer versions, because their arms grow really long! the only lifelike one is Lee.

right... i'll stop rambling now :lol:

[sing live]

mm... things seem to have been a bit too far-fetched here now....

i guess STEPS were professional enough to do the show properly instead of different members crying in different songs...... like there're "solo-crying" and "group-crying" sessions....

[5,6,7,STEPS]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Jan 17 2004, 02:32 PM
we know it was faye that missed her line, because as said before, she was crying on the PPV version and the camera was on her (they were obviously expecting faye to sing it, that's why the camera was on her) and she sings it on the cd too.

as for the video... hmm it probably was expensive, but I reckon it was quite cheap in comparison to their other videos;

take Last Thing on my Mind - you need to get steps and the film crew to Cuba, seal off an area for filming (pay the local authorities), pay the extras to be in it, pay for a film crew to stay a few nights in Cuba to film it (and they'll need food and rooms too), pay for somebody to edit it together and then add any special effects (ok, so there aren't any in LTOMM as far as I can remember, but anyways).

or it's the way you make me feel - they needed to book the house for a few days, pay all the dancers and crew, get them accomodation nearby, have all the lighting and special effects, not to mention rehearsals for the video, which weren't needed in WANE.

of course, they made allowances - they had a few expensive videos, and a few cheapo ones too - i know him so well and better the devil you know. :D

lol... it's also quite weird when steps turn into their computer versions, because their arms grow really long! the only lifelike one is Lee.

right... i'll stop rambling now :lol:
Call me strange, but is the ppv version the same as the dvd and vhs version? The way people are describing them sounds so different! LOL

[Skittles]

The DVD is the same show as the PPV version with a few differences:

1. Parts were trimmed to make it flow better.
2. Where the live singing was dodgy the DVD was dubbed over. You can notice this in I Know Him So Well - Faye misses her line, but the line is dubbed over.
3. The DVD was edited slightly - a close up of Faye crying was replaced with a wide shot.
4. Mistakes which weren't on the PPV appeared on the DVD - for example at the end of the concert Lisa takes hold of Claire's hand, and in the next shot she does it again.

[iluvuClarabelle]

soz Chris - but i have to say it is Lisa who missed her line!
Faye had sung that line previously but in the latest occasions wen they had sung it (ie Showtime at the stadium and TOTP) it was Lisa who sang that line.

Plus the camera isnt on Faye (not on PPV anyway) wen that line is meant to be sung, it was on her b4 that, then it cut to Claire, and wen that line was meant to be sung the first half of it Claire is on camera, then its a wide shot.
Sorry i keep contradicting you but i know im right here :)


oh and btw WANE was one of their most expensive vids (even tho it may not look it!) - not the most expensive tho :)

[steps2cool]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Jan 16 2004, 11:03 PM
I'm starting to wonder now - note that they are only actually in the video right at the beginning and that Lee is never shown close up with the rest of Steps.
LOL well I think this is more likely to be because Lee was never the most instrumental part of Steps was he?

Also I still think Lisa misses her line, because after the silence (which I never noticed on PPV), as I said, it's Clare's line but Lisa raises her mic very early, as if to be sure she doesn't miss another line.

And anyway LOL, how can anyone know who was meant to sing a line if none of them did... :lol:

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by steps2cool@Jan 17 2004, 09:25 PM
And anyway LOL, how can anyone know who was meant to sing a line if none of them did... :lol:
we all know who was supposed to be singing the line.

but the person in question was unable to sing the sing line!

it was deffo faye

[SeanieB]

It WAS lisa who missed the line

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by SeanieB@Jan 17 2004, 10:14 PM
It WAS lisa who missed the line
it *so* wasn't

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by SeanieB@Jan 17 2004, 10:14 PM
It WAS lisa who missed the line
lisa sings the line AFTER the one faye misses ;)

[5,6,7,STEPS]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Jan 17 2004, 06:30 PM
The DVD is the same show as the PPV version with a few differences:

1. Parts were trimmed to make it flow better.
2. Where the live singing was dodgy the DVD was dubbed over. You can notice this in I Know Him So Well - Faye misses her line, but the line is dubbed over.
3. The DVD was edited slightly - a close up of Faye crying was replaced with a wide shot.
4. Mistakes which weren't on the PPV appeared on the DVD - for example at the end of the concert Lisa takes hold of Claire's hand, and in the next shot she does it again.
So are they the same as the video version, cos that's the one i've got. I thought they were all of the same concert, but it sounds different to me! LOL :D

[Skittles]

Originally posted by 5,6,7,STEPS+Jan 17 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (5,6,7,STEPS @ Jan 17 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-chrisbailey@Jan 17 2004, 06:30 PM
The DVD is the same show as the PPV version with a few differences:

1. Parts were trimmed to make it flow better.
2. Where the live singing was dodgy the DVD was dubbed over. You can notice this in I Know Him So Well - Faye misses her line, but the line is dubbed over.
3. The DVD was edited slightly - a close up of Faye crying was replaced with a wide shot.
4. Mistakes which weren't on the PPV appeared on the DVD - for example at the end of the concert Lisa takes hold of Claire's hand, and in the next shot she does it again.
So are they the same as the video version, cos that's the one i've got. I thought they were all of the same concert, but it sounds different to me! LOL :D [/b][/quote]
:lol: - yes, they were the same performance. The DVD is the same as the VHS version as far as I know.

I've looked on 'live@wembley.2000' and it's Faye who sings the line there too.

[iluvuClarabelle]

trust me "fayes bra strap! it was Lisa!

lol - if any of you ever meet her - feel free to ask her lol!

as i said b4 - in recent times LISA had been singing the line that Faye had done previously - (if any of u hav it live @ Showtime at the Stadium or wen they did it on TOTP u will notice this!)

tis Lisa!

[Fayes Bra Strap]

this argument is just going to go on and on and on

on all the recorded versions and the steptacular tour version it is faye's line and i'm sticking with faye

now lets all just agree to disagree

[iluvuClarabelle]

lol - so u take in2 consideration the versions that were done 2 years b4 the song was released!!

if ud saw any of the 2 performances ive listed above - ud be agreeing!
anyway - yeh if u want - agree to dis-agree, but you'll be proved wrong in the end! :P

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by iluvuClarabelle@Jan 17 2004, 11:27 PM
lol - so u take in2 consideration the versions that were done 2 years b4 the song was released!!


not the almighty mix ;)
the vocals were for the almighty mix were re-recorded in autmn 2001 especially for it!

and faye's still singing that line!

[iluvuClarabelle]

well i dont know about that - but i do know about the two LIVE performances they did around the time of the songs release - and Lisa was singing a slightly different version of her verse (learnt about the man b4 i fell....) and she had nicked Fayes line!

face it!

[Shaggy]

No fayes bra strap! In the Almighty mix, Lisa def sings that line. Not Faye! B)

[Skittles]

Should we add a Poll to this topic? lol... we can vote then!

[sing live]

oh... poll?? Poll for who's missing the line??

[5,6,7,STEPS]

OKAY!!! CALL IT QUITS!!! LOL. DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHO SANG WHAT LINE? CHILL PEOPLE, CHILL! :D

[5,6,7,STEPS]

What are the extras on the End Of The Road DVD? Anyone know?

[Skittles]

There's the main video, and also a scene selection thing where you can skip to whatever song you want.

Then there is a "Do you remember?" section, where you see some pictures of members of Steps doing part of a dance routine flash quickly on the screen. Then it shows all of the images on the screen and you have to click on the images in the same order that they came up in - like a memory game. If you do it correctly, you see a very short clip of the song from "End of the Road" with the words "You got it!" across the picture.

The other extra is a "Learn the dance" thing. It shows you all the dance steps to a chorus of a song. Then the first picture gets highlighted and text appears telling you what to do. Then it moves to the next dance step.

Both extras are pathetically poor, especially the "learn the dance" feature - you have no control over it, it just shows you pictures of the dances. Also, the music in the background doesn't actually match the dance steps. It's very lame.

[_-*Jamie*-_]

Its Lisa on the "WANE/IKHSW" CD, so get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[_-*Jamie*-_]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Jan 9 2004, 12:04 AM
An end to the argument about Bittersweet: http://www.generationsteps.co.uk/content/i...ittersweet.html (http://www.generationsteps.co.uk/content/information/lyrics/bittersweet.html)
ITS YOU'RE!! ITS THE FUNNIEST "I'M" IVE EVER HEARD"

[5,6,7,STEPS]

SHUT UP!!!!! This argument is getting REALLY boring now, so GET OVER IT!!!! :angry: LOL

[_-*Jamie*-_]

Were you involved in this???? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! So you "SHUT UP!" lol.

[Skittles]

Woah! Calm down people! :D

Ok... In regards to Bittersweet, the lyrics say "I'm" in them too! It actually sounds like she's saying "Yammm" because the "Y" from finally carries over into the "I'm". But it's definately I'm.

Now download yourself this slowed-down clip and let that be the end of the matter! Lisa.mp3 (250kb) (http://www.aqpa91.dsl.pipex.com/lisa.mp3)

[5,6,7,STEPS]

Originally posted by Viva La Fiesta@Jan 21 2004, 07:20 PM
Were you involved in this???? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! So you "SHUT UP!" lol.
LOL :D

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Jan 16 2004, 10:27 PM
Ok... this is interesting. lol.

On the CD (I'm listening to the version on The Last Dance) it's Faye that sings the line "He needs his fantasy and freedom".

On the End of the Road DVD, obviously the line is missed but you can still hear it - it sounds like Lisa when it says "fantasy" but when you listen to the word "freedom" it sounds like Faye. Lisa's got a very unique singing style and I think Faye's just sang that word in the way Lisa sings, which makes the whole lot sound Lisa-ish.

I think that it was Faye who missed her line, not Lisa.

On another note - was the line dubbed in, or were they miming to a 'live' version? I can't really tell... it looks live because when Lisa sings live she screws up her face a lot. :D
on the single is Lisa singing though? huh wots that all about?

[SeanieB]

"Lisa's got a very unique singing style "


LMAO - damn right!

[italianguy]

Sorry for the really stupid question I'm going to do but I'm a new fan and I don't know too much about Steps :(
When was the concert of Gold Greatest Hits taken? (I don't know if I wrote in a correct way!) I mean the date....
Did the know it was the last concert?

Thank you for the answer!
ciao!

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by italianguy@Feb 21 2004, 06:22 AM
Sorry for the really stupid question I'm going to do but I'm a new fan and I don't know too much about Steps :(
When was the concert of Gold Greatest Hits taken? (I don't know if I wrote in a correct way!) I mean the date....
Did the know it was the last concert?

Thank you for the answer!
ciao!
22/12/2001 at m.e.n arena

and no, no1 except steps knew it was the final show

[italianguy]

Thank you very much for the answer! :)

[stepsitalia]

Originally posted by Fayes Bra Strap@Feb 21 2004, 11:49 AM

22/12/2001 at m.e.n arena

and no, no1 except steps knew it was the final show
r u sure!?.....
well before the show they knew it! coz if the news we got are true...h&c gave letters to them be4 the show...and the girls cried lots of times durin the concert!

[Truestepper]

as far as I know, they did the last 2 shows knowing that they were the last - they handed thier letters in *which they had to do legally* during the PPV meeting apparently!

[stepster101]

no steps had a descussion before the last date of the concert about giving it up but they were not sure so they wanted to decide it after their christmas break but h and claire definitely knew it was the end and loves got a hold on my heart was a slip out on mine

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by stepsitalia+Feb 21 2004, 01:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (stepsitalia @ Feb 21 2004, 01:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Fayes Bra Strap@Feb 21 2004, 11:49 AM

22/12/2001 at m.e.n arena

and no, no1 except steps knew it was the final show
r u sure!?.....
well before the show they knew it! coz if the news we got are true...h&c gave letters to them be4 the show...and the girls cried lots of times durin the concert! [/b][/quote]
did u read what i said properly?

they knew it was the last show - we didn't

[SeanieB]

Originally posted by stepster101@Feb 22 2004, 09:21 PM
no steps had a descussion before the last date of the concert about giving it up but they were not sure so they wanted to decide it after their christmas break but h and claire definitely knew it was the end and loves got a hold on my heart was a slip out on mine
Errr No...

STEPS knew for the last 3 shows.... they announced it on boxing day... by accident... so that kinda proves your theory wrong

[Truestepper]

aye 3 *I forgets about the matinee that they did* ! Anyway to whoever it was, it wasn't supposed to be announced till the end of Jan, but some **** *BB anyone* leaked it - damn them! Claire has already decided she wanted to leave, and whatever H had said I think she'd have gone anyway!

[iluvuClarabelle]

*cant belive peeps are still debating this*

H and Claire resigned before the 2nd last or 3rd last show.
It was leaked (or purposely leaked) most likely by some1 at BB on Boxing Day and they made a statement to the press - end of!

[Shaggy]

Boring! ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.......

[Water Goblinglitter]

H and Claire told the others during the PPV meeting. I do get sick of people saying there was a discussion and the other 3 agreed coz they did not. Lisa lee and Faye were informed of Claire and Hs decision at the PPv meeting, emphisis on IMFORMED and not CONSULTED!

[Shaggy]

To be fair, I think the reason peeps keep bringing it back up is because the fans were never told why H and Claire wanted to split. There must be a reason. Can you help put an end to this boring thread?

[Water Goblinglitter]

Lol i could but itll start arguments. they did what they thought was right!

[SeanieB]

they left... lol end of!

Nothing can change it now... They have moved on now cant we?

[iluvuClarabelle]

Originally posted by SeanieB@Feb 23 2004, 08:06 PM
they left... lol end of!


exactly!

[Truestepper]

Exactly Mr Sean! Like I've said before, Robbie and Geri both did worse - and the fans of their groups got over it much quicker! Maybe Steps fans just want to see a fight between em all :bricks:

[SeanieB]

yea... Robbie and Geri left right in the middle of tours and release sheduals... etc...

STEPS fans i think were more into STEPS emotionally... than TT and SG fans tho...

Steps wernt exactly "cool" so most of the fans liked them cus they really liked them... not cus they wore the right shirt or dress... or were headlining at the brits....

I dunno...

[iluvuClarabelle]

Originally posted by SeanieB@Feb 23 2004, 09:04 PM
STEPS fans i think were more into STEPS emotionally... than TT and SG fans tho...

Steps wernt exactly "cool" so most of the fans liked them cus they really liked them... not cus they wore the right shirt or dress... or were headlining at the brits....


yeh i agree actually - they liked em as people aswell as singers...

(even tho of course they didnt know em personally but ya know wat i mean)

[Truestepper]

They left just before massive tours - with Geri it was the US tour, TT is was the big UK tour and just weeks before the release of massive singles!
Anyway I think the TT fans were slighty loopy and most were behind them, even when they were doing crap at first, plus you couldn't claim the Spiceys were the best dressed in the land - they just came along at the right time! But yeah, I see your point, they were so uncool they WERE cool....

Mind we should also add that Boyzone and the Spiceys have never 'officially' announced a split.......same with AK - break my arse!

[SeanieB]

spice girls are still contracted as the spice girls for another album so legally cant say they have split... thats why they always say that they will never rule out a reunion...

I reckon they will do a greatest hits... they have to really....

[Skittles]

I'm over the split, but I'm still curious to know why it happened. As has been said, we were never really told all the details. I'd love one of them to do a 'warts and all' interview and tell us what really happened.

Anyway, they did what they thought was best.

[iluvuClarabelle]

see thats wat im talkin about - no offence but we DO know wat happened!
most people anyway - not the most intricate details - but we know everythin that matters!!

about the Spice Girls - i dunno wat theyre still contracted too - but if some1 wants to leave a band and/or split a band up - they can - theres no contract that says u cant.
Same wit Steps - they signed a new r/d with Jive a few months b4 they split for another like 2 years!

(and btw the Spice Girls are doin a GH this year!)
but the 1 person who i think will always say no unless its huge money and huge pressure is Mel C - and shes made no secret of it - shes the 1 person who'd HATE to do it.

[Water Goblinglitter]

Steps HAD planned to release one more album and do more one tour-ask any one of them if they honestly planned to go on more than another year and they couldnt put theyre hand on theyre heart and say yes. Lol bu it dosnt matter now. Like Chris sed, people know all they need to. If majority knew any more it wouldnt just cause MORE arguments!

[SeanieB]

lol yes if they knew that it was actually LISA that wanted to leave not Claire.... lol

it was all a conspiricy with Jan @ scott-lee towers over xmas dinner to make lsl look better....

[SeanieB]

that WAS a joke btw... pls no one take it seriously or start biatching at me! :P

[Water Goblinglitter]

They all wanted to lave at some point!

[iluvuClarabelle]

True true...

[Fayes Bra Strap]

Originally posted by SeanieB@Feb 23 2004, 09:45 PM

I reckon they will do a greatest hits... they have to really....
They've all signed the release form.....

[Shaggy]

[QUOTE]
" They all wanted to leave at some point"

Who can blame them. It must of been very hard with all the stick they got.

[_-*Jamie*-_]

hmm...

[Shaggy]

hmm.......

[Shaggy]

One more question for WaterGobli....... Just before they split, did they have enough recorded tracks to release another album? You said earlier they planned to release another alb!

[Water Goblinglitter]

Lol dunno that much. i doubt it ,they normally recorded in the summer!

[Shaggy]

Cool. Oh well, I'm off to a party now. Have good night peeps!
Thank god for "Tuesday"!
Now is the time,
For feeling alright........

[5,6,7,STEPS]

LOL. Hope you have a nice time :D

[iluvuClarabelle]

lol - call her Carrie - her name is Carrie!

[~JACQUI~]

is it worth buying the end of the road dvd if i have the original recording of sky on vid?

Actually, i don't know why i'm asking that, i don't even have a DVD player!

[\\//Paul\\//]

lol

[Shaggy]

I would. It's worth it to hear a Re-vamped version of Claire singing Hand On Your Heart live. Well, seeing as it went a bit wrong on the night.
Not forgetting all the great Extra features! (By the way, I was being sarcastic.)

[magicpatch]

Despite the audio glitch (still don't understand that bit cos its fine on Sky!) LOL the DVD is pretty good, they've not been stingy with the quality, the picture quality is excellent, will beat anything you have recorded on VHS

[~JACQUI~]

Originally posted by Shaggy@Feb 25 2004, 05:34 PM
I would. It's worth it to hear a Re-vamped version of Claire singing Hand On Your Heart live. Well, seeing as it went a bit wrong on the night.
Not forgetting all the great Extra features! (By the way, I was being sarcastic.)
yeah, my VHS recording, it sounds like Lisa's left her mic on and is shouting 'what do you want? I'm in the bathroom' !

Also, in CR, someone's singing over it in a really stupid voice, so maybe if i get a DVD player I will get the DVD!

[Skittles]

I so want to hear Claire messing up! Maybe we'll put it up on the site next month.

[iluvuClarabelle]

lol - she doesnt badly mess up - she just goes a wee bit outta tune a few times. (as most peeps do singing live!)

btw Chris - cheers for putting d/l's up on the site - we appreciate it!

[Truestepper]

lol well its not her fault, its the ppl in charge of the audios!

[iluvuClarabelle]

*nods* - she could probably hear those noises in her monitors...

[Shaggy]

Yeah I reckon so. Just before She starts the second chorus "Like your in mine..." She goes Completely out of tune just as that women starts talking again. Please don't put it up for download. It's the worst live performance I've heard in a while. Well, apart from Jemini! Put one up when she sounded good!!

[~JACQUI~]

I watched it last night the original off PPV box office, and she doesn't mess up, is just that i can hear Lisa!

[Shaggy]

Has the world suddenly become tone death????? She def did go completely out of tune!!
To end: Claire's a great singer, She did a rough performance. Big deal, everyone makes mistakes and has bad night's. It just really pee's me off when people say there wasn't loads of mitakes when there clearly was.

[~JACQUI~]

I honestly couldn't hear her going off key, and i should be able to tell, I'm a musician!

[Shaggy]

Me too. I'm not commenting on this subject anymore. It's boring! Although I will say, she def did go out of tune. Quite a few times at that. And thats my musical opinion, not to be nasty!

[Skittles]

Incidentally, I wonder why they didn't dub over the audio glitch - they dubbed over the rest of the DVD!

[SeanieB]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Mar 3 2004, 09:24 PM
Incidentally, I wonder why they didn't dub over the audio glitch - they dubbed over the rest of the DVD!
lol i thought that... tho im guessing if they bubbed over it... it may throw the timing off ...

lol or maybe they just wanted to make the DVD imperfect...!

lol

did anyone notice the typo on the back of the cover???

:P I was proof reader when the DVD was released.... I would have got sacked for an error like that!!!

[Skittles]

"...DOES NOT MEAN YOUR COP IS FAULTY..." that one? :D

Another quality piece of Steps merchendise there ;)

[_-*Jamie*-_]

wots it meant to be?

[Club Suga]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Mar 4 2004, 08:28 PM
"...DOES NOT MEAN YOUR COP IS FAULTY..." that one? :D

Another quality piece of Steps merchendise there ;)
Mine says COPY!

[_-*Jamie*-_]

cool, mine dunt!

[madaboutlisa]

Mine doesn't! I spose it depends when you bought it... (I got mine the day it was released). If there was enough demand for it, a second run was probably printed, when they actually corrected the error.

[_-*Jamie*-_]

mayb...

[NetHacker]

1 year after the DVD EOTR was released, the 2-VCD version of it was released in Asia with the word "copy". It was then that I understand the meaning of that statement. I had always thought that the "cop" is another word for the "product" I bought.. :lol:

[~JACQUI~]

Originally posted by Shaggy@Mar 3 2004, 06:29 PM
Me too. I'm not commenting on this subject anymore. It's boring! Although I will say, she def did go out of tune. Quite a few times at that. And thats my musical opinion, not to be nasty!
I couldn't hear her out of tune on HOYH, but she went waaaaaaaaaay off on IKHSW

[Shaggy]

Urgh!!!!!! She didn't do a bad job of It's The Way You Make Me Feel. What are you on???

[Shaggy]

Actually, the question should be what am I on! Lol. Soz read it wrong! I still think I Know Him So Well sounded better than Hand On Your Heart but there ya go!

[~JACQUI~]

Sorry to disagree, but......

[sing live]

will i think hand on your heart sounds better than i know him so well on the ppv version because claire didn't sound right in the begining of ikhsw and didn't do the harmony well at the end of the song.....
she was singing well in the other live songs, though she was sometimes too loud, i think.....
but i do like her "wooooooooo" at the end of it's the way you make me feel..... that seems powerful to me....

[~JACQUI~]

I didn't like her singing at the start of IKHSW, cos she went waaay off, and did thruout the song. Faye forgot her last line of the song, that always bugs me when I watched it.

[iluvuClarabelle]

UH! People critisising my baby!

lol - im sorry but she didnt go outta tune (certainly not very much) on IKHSW...
The beginning sounds fine to me and its not Claire's fault if the harmony at the end wasnt as good as normal - look to Faye or Lisa (or them as a whole) for that!


Claire's voice was better than ever before really on that concert (esp her big note in WANE which is just genius) so....stop complaining :P lol

[magicpatch]

I think people should be grateful that it wasn't mimed! ;)

[~JACQUI~]

No, Im glad of that, but her voice at the start of IKHSW was sooooooooo off, and i think she realised it. Look at the expression on her face!

She got better throughout the song tho, and it wasnt faye and Lisa messing up, it was just their voices weren't very compatible that night!

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Jan 7 2004, 07:59 PM

Love's Got a Hold On My Heart
After The Love Has Gone
Heartbeat
Here and Now
If You Believe
It's The Way You Make Me Feel
Hand on your heart
Words are not enough
I know him so well
Bittersweet [partly dubbed on DVD]
You'll Be Sorry [nearly totally dubbed but you can hear the live h and claire in the background]
Last Thing On My Mind
Better The Devil You Know
Summer of Love [dubbed in parts]
Better Best Forgotten
Tragedy
Chain Reaction


is that all the songs performed on the VHS/DVD? i want to know i haven't got the DVD/VHS

[~JACQUI~]

I didn't think it had been released on VHS??

[Skittles]

Yes, there is a VHS version.

1. One For Sorrow - Sleazesisters mix
2. Deeper Shade Of Blue - Sleazesisters mix
3. Love's Got A Hold On My Heart
4. 5, 6, 7, 8
5. Believe
6. After The Love Has Gone
7. Heartbeat - Simon Hill Mix
8. Here And Now
9. If You Believe
10. It's The Way You Make Me Feel
11. Hand On Your Heart
12. Words Are Not Enough
13. I Know Him So Well
14. Bittersweet
15. Baby Don't Dance
16. Last Thing On My Mind
17. Close To Me
18. You'll Be Sorry
19. Medly - Better The Devil You Know / Summer Of Love / Better Best Forgotten

20. Stomp - W.I.P. mix
21. Tragedy
22. Chain Reaction.

[Shaggy]

Originally posted by iluvuClarabelle@Mar 11 2004, 02:03 AM
UH! People critisising my baby!

lol - im sorry but she didnt go outta tune (certainly not very much) on IKHSW...
The beginning sounds fine to me and its not Claire's fault if the harmony at the end wasnt as good as normal - look to Faye or Lisa (or them as a whole) for that!


Claire's voice was better than ever before really on that concert (esp her big note in WANE which is just genius) so....stop complaining :P lol
Completely agree. It wasn't Claire who messed the harmony at the end up. I know this because Claire sings the main medley bit, not any harmony (at the end anyway) How ever, she was off at the start, but hey as Magic patch said, at least they made the effort to sing live. I'd rather hear them go out of tune a few times than watch them mime. Hey, every one makes mistakes!

[crazy vampire]

Originally posted by chrisbailey@Mar 11 2004, 04:45 PM
Yes, there is a VHS version.

1. One For Sorrow - Sleazesisters mix
2. Deeper Shade Of Blue - Sleazesisters mix
3. Love's Got A Hold On My Heart
4. 5, 6, 7, 8
5. Believe
6. After The Love Has Gone
7. Heartbeat - Simon Hill Mix
8. Here And Now
9. If You Believe
10. It's The Way You Make Me Feel
11. Hand On Your Heart
12. Words Are Not Enough
13. I Know Him So Well
14. Bittersweet
15. Baby Don't Dance
16. Last Thing On My Mind
17. Close To Me
18. You'll Be Sorry
19. Medly - Better The Devil You Know / Summer Of Love / Better Best Forgotten

20. Stomp - W.I.P. mix
21. Tragedy
22. Chain Reaction.
hey shouldn't the songs performed on the VHS and DVD be the same except maybe the DVD may have some extra special features that a VHS can't have as the VHS has got less spaxce than DVDs?

[Shaggy]

They are the same apart from the "Special Extra Features"! ;)

[crazy vampire]

right

[Skittles]

Yeah the concert is exactly the same, just there's some 'special games' on the DVD which are a bit rubbish really. You can have a look at some screen-shots on the Generation Steps website.

[~JACQUI~]

So its not worth buying it really!

[Amber]

whatis close to me? I didnt have that one on the sky box office thing, that wasnt on it, I wastched it lasdt night

[Skittles]

I think it was billed as "We've got it going on", although "Close to me" was the official name?

[Shaggy]

Yeah, that must be it.

[~JACQUI~]

Its Lee's song isn't it?

[Amber]

i think that i should get it waht do you all think?

[~JACQUI~]

I think its up to you, lol!

[_-*Jamie*-_]

lol

[~JACQUI~]

I don't think i'm gonna get it. I taped it live on the night, so its like more personal to me, if you know what i mean. Its hard to explain. It feels as tho buying it would be betraying them. its weird

[SeanieB]

lol what giving them x% in royalties is betrayal.... lol!

[~JACQUI~]

No, i don't mean like that. Its hard to explain!